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  • David Mancuso has left us but he gave New York City something to look back on....

    A mural dedicated to the New York City, Usa Dj David Mancuso famoius for his Loft style parties in the 1970's

    This maybe old news to you now. However, it seems that the curse of 2016 has taken away another musical giant in the form of Dj David Mancuso.2106 has taken away so many music and film legends that many of us now can't wait for 2016 to finish.

    The News has spread like wildfire right around the world since it was announced that David Mancuso has died - on the 15th Nov, 2016The cause of death is still not known at the moment.

    My first knowledge of David Mancuso was not actually meeting the man himself. In fact I have never met him in my life.

    It was only after meeting another Dj that schooled me about him that I decided after our "meet" to read up and find out more about the man and the legend. 

    The person that schooled me about him was - Colleen Murphy  - Colleen 'Cosmo' Murphy -  She is from the Usa. The City of Boston, Usa to be pricise. 

     Colleen Murphy who schooled me in regards tot her knowledge and experiences with David Mancuso all those years ago

     "Cosmo" being her nickname was asked down by myself to my home town (Ipswich Town, England).It was in order for her to play a few tunes; and at the same time to be interviewed over the airwaves (Radio broadcasting airairwave) about her love of music; and how she got into it within the first place; and djing.

    It was via this meeting with Colleen, that I got to learn about David Mancuso from her recollections and she had seen and learntwhilst being around his company.And what David meant to New York city, and their underground dance culture in general there - Info on Colleen Murphy

    This and more knowledge gained from my research led me into watching the movie called "Maestro" which was released in Feb, 2003. This Movie Documentary gave us a basic understanding of New York;and its underground dance culture during the 1970's to 1980's.

    At the time I was even sent a special premier ticket  during 2003 to watch the Ist viewing of the Film that is  "Maestro" within - http://leicestersquaretheatre.com/ - London, England.

    The "Maestro" FILM TRAILER (2003)- PLEASE CLICK ON THE VIDEO

     And via watching this movie  learned even more about David Mancuso,Nicky Siano, Larry Levan, Frankie Knuckles and others about what it meant to have live in those times, and also to "party" within those times.

    This film gives almost as much credit for the creation of the scene via David Mancuso, Loft Parties, the long-running private club famous for its intimate, living-room atmosphere and brilliant sound engineering; right through to Larry Levan and the club that made him world famous - The Paradise Garage, King Street, New York, Usa

    However, it must be said that Mr Mancuso was basicially known for his parties that he helped start up within the city of New York during the 1970's.David Mancuso was born in Utica, New York, during the year of 1944.

    David Mancuso behind the decks doing what he liked doing best 

    However, things began to gell for him after he moved to New York City in 1962. It was there that Mancuso rented a loft at 647 Broadway near Bleecker Street,New York, Usa.

    The size of the space allowed him to purchase two Klipschhorn loudspeakers, which he paired up with McIntosh amps and two turntables.

    David Mancuso adds,

    "During this time, I would go out to rent parties. They were at someone's apartment, or somebody would throw an event, and it would be just to raise money for the rent.So I had this loft space on Broadway and in order to pay rent, I threw some parties between '65 and '70. It worked out really well.About half-a-dozen of them happened over that five-year period of time, even though I always say The Loft started in 1970". - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Loft_(New_York_City)

    The first official "The Loft" party, we now know was held on February 14th, 1970and was called "Love Saves The Day". This eventually became a regular Saturday night event, starting around midnight and running until the morning.

    Mancusoalso avoided using the pitch control on the turntables that were at this event,  to match the musician's vision as opposed to the DJ's ego of how it should be delievered to the audience.

    Famously, records were not mixed atThe Loft. He wanted his audience to appreciate the music when it was made, and then recording via the music studios. He didn't want or allow for the music to be "Mixed" within these parties.

    They had to be played from start to finish. No beat mixing. The point being was that he wanted for his audience to have deep emotional experience with the music that was being played; as opposed to having the DJs’ egos contolling what you heard. Also there was no food or liguor sold at his parties. If anything it was given out to his audience.

    The likes of François K, Frankie Knuckles, Larry Levan, Nicky Siano and David Morales were regulars at The Loft,which eventually led Mancuso to establish the New York Record Pool,acquiring promos from record labels for the qualified DJs in his circle.

    Mancuso started up this pool after moving his operations to 99 Prince Street in SoHo, New York City, USA.

    He ran this pool as a non-profit operation until 1978 before deciding to refocus on the parties and handing the DJ's record network over to Judy Weinstein.

    He continued to host The Loft on Prince Street until 1985, when skyrocketing real estate forced him into Alphabet City, within New York City,Usa

    In the 1990s, reasonably priced downtown spaces became so scarce that he began to tour, limiting the NYC events to four to six a year.

    Mancuso speaking with Disco Music, stated:

    "I can't find the space and I don't have the resources like I used to… I've had offers that you can't believe, but there are catches to them and I can't give in to them.I'd rather take the subway and do without the Mercedes-Benz.

    I've known some of my guests for more than 25 years and I can't go away from that. The Loft parties are very personal, intimate thing. It's the thing that keeps me going in life."

    David Mancuso explaining himself below about the Loft Parties , etc, etc...

    Tributes from all over the world that have only just learned about his death are equally shocked.

    1. Kevin Saunderson (@kevinsaunderson) _ Twitter - "I went to The Loft in Spanish Harlem as a youth, 1st time I heard "Supernature". We owe so much - nov 15,2016

    2.Dimitri from Paris - @DimitriParis - If you don't know who David Mancuso was, do yourself a favor & go beyond 140 signs. Look him up, find out how essential his contribution was - nov 15,2016

    3. Greg Wilson - @djgregwilsonHere's a piece I wrote about David Mancuso in 2003, highlighting how the great man connected psychedelia and disco: -http://blog.gregwilson.co.uk/2013/05/david-mancuso-and-the-art-of-deejaying-without-deejaying/ -nov 15,2016

    4. Questlove Gomez - @questloveNew York Legend. Without Whom. NONE of this is possible. Salute the Gawd- nov 15,2016

    Its another sad day within 2016. Yes people die every day. Thats a fact. However, it just seems that some of the people that we lose or have lost makes think on how a great contribution that they made whilst they were alive.

    These peoples made you want to get out of bed to face another day. We have just lost another such person that made you want to get out of bed and face another day......

    Well that all folks for me now anyway.

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  • Marc Kinchen and the MK DUBs. The legendary House music producer - From Detroit, Usa. Yes Detroit!

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    Marc Kinchen and the Mk Dub - The legendary House music producer - From Detroit, Usa. Yes Detroit!

    American House and Garage music did set the standard for the rest of us to follow at the time. And still does in some respects. Hard to accept but it is the truth  However, if you were to set yourself the task of writing about the music in general; and not too mention Marc Kinchen. Then do not be surprised if you see people smirking or even laughing out loud at you.

    I was lucky to purchase my first ever Marc Kinchen House tune called “Burning” from a Independent Record shop here in Ipswich Town, England called “Red Eye” records.

    Red Eye records specialised within the music of Drum and Bass and Techno music. However, they did cater for people like me (in a limited format) that were into House and Garage music. It was by going through the piles of records that they had got in that week for House and Garage music. They gave me the whole lot to go through them that I had stock piled for me to listen through. I eventually I came across into listening to the track that changed my attitude to Marc Kinchen.

    The records that I liked I had put to one side  as they were the ones that I wanted to buy from that store that day.

    At the end of the record listening day I purchased the whole lot of them and ran home gleeful in the knowledge that the people in the shop didn’t realise how good these tracks were. Most of the people in that store that day were totally into Drum and Bass; the music of Techno.

    MK - "Burning" (Original Vibe mix) - 1992

    Marc Kinchen by the way was born (3rdAugust, 1972) and raised within the city of Detriot, Usa. His own sound grew out from the cities musical craze at that time which was Techno.

    However before all of that he had takenmusic at school seriously and had started to produce his own stuff at home by the age of fourteen. He had made home versions of the music he was into at that point – which was Depeche Mode and European electro pop which Kinchen says was popular in the Detriot at the time. (The 2nd British Music Invasion of the Usa 1983)

    In 1988, age sixteen, he hooked up with a couple of friends who also produced music and the group released a track called “First Base” under the name Separate Minds, which came out on the small Detroit independent label.

    Legend has it that Kinchen sampled the sounds of the computer game called Metal Gear on “First Base”. It comes off sounding like some demonic sounding techno hybrid.

    This caught the ear of Kevin Saunderson who licensed “First Base” to a compilation he put out on his KMS label showcasing the current sound of Detroit Techno.

    Saunderson helped nurture MK (Marc Kinchen) talent by giving him 24 hour access to his own home studio, with use of top of the range samplers, sequencers, synths and drum machines.

    Under his own dj name that is MK (Marc Kinchen) he fell under the influence of fellow Detriot Techno musician that is Kevin Saunderson (KMS). Kinchen quickly made a name for himself with Techno tracks like Somebody New and Decay within the Detriot Techno music.

    By the start of the nineties Kinchen was making music under the name MK and had begun working with the vocalist Alana SimonMarc’s ears however ears were now open to accept the other sounds coming from cities such as Chicago and more so New York in regards to their take on House music.

    In 1991, still working within Kevin Saunderson studio; MK cut the track called Burning and Always with the singer (Alana Simon) and released it on an imprint he had set up himself, Area 10 record label.

    Burning was a slice of moody, Detroit deep House and set the clubs of the East Coast, as well as the UK, alight.

    Mk wasn’t at the time a club DJ or particularly into clubbing. So he was unaware to an extent of the records effect on the dance floor. Kinchen relied on the numbers of copies being requested by distributors to measure the tune’s success.

    Marc Kinchen producing another one of his famous Dub mixes

    Without any fanfare or real promotion, the 12” eventually shifted 20,000 copies, and with it, MK was catapulted into a new world of high demand and big money.

    I was working mostly with Kevin, Kevin taught me a lot. I saw that Kevin and Derrick May all had their own labels and I watched what they were doing and in my spare time I made music. I pressed 'Burning' for fun and the next thing I knew my phone was ringing off the hook. One of the calls was from a guy at Cardiac Records called Ramon Wells about licensing the record. 

    I had a girlfriend in NY, Kevin Saunderson’s management MCT was there and I thought that if I moved I could get hooked up with them. So I just moved and gave it a shot.”Marc Kinchen talks about Ramon wells from Cardiac records wanting to liscense the track

    So that explains how he was tempted in to making the two brilliant opening House tracks of his career via tracks which were Burning (as mentioned above) or Always on his own Area 10 label.

    His deep bass lines combined with chopped up vocals are then added to the musical pot which are  musical hooks that make an MK production instantly recognizable during his career from the early to middle 1990’s; and a blueprint for the sound of New Jersey’s Todd Edwards.

    “MK's use of vocals became the cornerstone of my musical style. I can say with 100% certainty, without MK's influence, there would be no Todd Edwards. The musical elements of MK's work were very different from other producers at the time. His tracks were soulful but had something more... perhaps they were more futuristic.” Todd Edwards- Todd Edwards speaking about Marc Kinchen

    However it must be said that Mk(Marc Kinchen sound) was not built on one particular sounding bassline.. In fact he has produced more than 200 remixes and countless remixes on other peoples music – that made him and his sound legendary.

    Below is just another classic sounding remix work achieved by Marc Kinchen during the early 1990's that still stands the test of time today, and put him in the position at the time as one of the worlds best House remixers!! Listen to the tune below. 

    4th Measure Man - Given - MK Dub - 1993

    By 1993 MK had moved from the city of Detroit to the city of New York and was soaking up the New York city House and Garage sound, hanging out with artists such as Kerri Chandler, Todd Terry and Masters at Work, and remixing 3 or 4 tracks a month, for $20, 000 dollars.

    Soon pop acts had gotten to hear about he and they wanted the MK trademark dub mix to push their song into the thriving club world.

    Kinchen had now perfected his trademark sound by stripping out the vocal melody and instead using the vocal as a sampled instrument in short, cut up bursts, against a landscape of shuffled hi hats, stuttering drums and organ bass stabs.

    These mixes that were handed to the label came with additional conventional mix that kept the original vocal part more in tact with the track. This acted as the safe mix. Whilst the MK dub was more abstract mix and this is what Mk actually wanted the track actually sound like.

    These mixes were always called some variation of ‘MK dub’: The MK Dumb Dub, MK NY Dub, MK Deep Dub etc, and for a while, during the mid nineties peak, these mixes were ever where. The biggest of them all was of course the ‘Dub of Doom’ mix known as - Push the Feeling On, by the Scottish house music group Nightcrawlers 1991

    Legend has it that MK (Marc Kinchen) produced a mix that he felt had changed the focus of the track to something that the group (Nightcrawlers) would like. He was happy with the mix that he had created and he submitted it to the powers that be only for it to be turned down by the label.

    MK (Marc Kinchen) was then told by his manager to do another mix quickly, which he did as the one that he presented didn’t cut it. Within half an hour and on 1 x take only; and occupying one speaker. He created the legendary mix (which is the Dub of doom) and handied over to the Fed Ex man. He then rushed out of his New York apartment to catch a flight back to Detroit.

    On his return to New York city a fortnight later together with his brother (the producer Scotti Deep) the pair knew instinctively that the track would be massive, which it absolutely was.

    “The original was a really not-so-great R&B track – that’s what I thought, anyway – but the vocals were great. I had an hour to work on it in studio before I had to fly to Detroit, and I did it really fast. But then my manager called and said the label wanted a few things changing, which got me mad because I was rushing to catch a flight [laughs]. All-in-all, though, I made the “Dub Of Doom” remix in about twenty minutes, I still made the flight, and the it’s still being played today, so I’m happy.”Marc Kinchen talks about how he did that Dub of voom mix

    Here below is the track that truly made MK Famous all over the world. Have a listen to it.

    Nightcrawlers - Push the Feeling On - (The Dub of Doom mix) 1991

    Mk was later to go to produce mixes for the Masters At WorkD-InfluenceJodeci and many more. He also got to work with Quincy Jones and Will Smith as well.

    However in my opinion his remix of a Masters at Work classic – I can’t get no sleep and the Jodeci standard that is Freekin Night shows what a talent he had (and still has) for remixing tracks.

    The remix for the House and Garage Dj team that is The Masters at Work remix for was outstanding.  The Masters at Work (Louie Vega and Kenny Dope Gonzales), are legendary in the world of House and Garage music.  However, even they got out done when Mk produced a mix that they asked him to do.

    The remix that was given to Mk (Marc Kinchen) to do something with was called “I can’t get no sleep”. It is here that I believe that Mk produced in my opinion his best ever remix. Even better then the “Push the feeling” on in my opinion. And that remix is this one - Masters At Work Featuring India‎– I Can't Get No Sleep / MK MIX – 1993

    Listening to it just makes you smile. In fact the other mix that he does on the same single is just as good. Brilliant in fact. (Masters At Work Featuring India ‎– I Can't Get No Sleep / MK dub – 1993). But some reason. I don’t know why I just prefer this remix.

    ‘I Can’t Get No Sleep’ is close to being my favourite house tune of all time. Marc Kinchen achieved something with this remix that takes it beyond a normal House music tune. He completely transformed a brilliant record in its own right into something even bettter, laid-back, euphoric and emotional all at the same time.

    The chords progression and the groove are sensational. And, like everything MK seems to touch, the vocals are expertly stripped and repositioned prefectly. And it smooth all at the same time. Have a listen to it yourself. You will see what I mean.

    Masters At Work Featuring India‎– I Can't Get No Sleep / MK MIX – 1993


    The 2ndmix that I have choosen is this one. And this is as close to Funk music, that House music will get to. The track that I have choosen as another one of my firm favourites from Mkis his remix of Jodeci'sFreekin night.

    Starts of with a Standard 4 to beat drum pattern - then comes a whispered voices stating with:

    "I wanna Freak you", "I wanna Freak you", "I wanna Freak you". Then comes that organ riff, that really gets you interested, then comes the everything all together - the bass, the organ riff, and the sampled and repositioned vocal lyric that is "Every Freeking Night, and Everyday in every Freeking day, I wanna freekin baby in every freekin way, and Every Freeking day and Every Freeking Night  I wanna freek you girl cause body so freeking tight.....

    Wonderful, wonderful single that does not seems to age. Please have a listen to just get a sample of MK and at the height of his powers as a remixer.

    Jodeci's -  Freekin night

    These are just of the singles that made Mk one of the most dynamic names in House and Garage at the time (from the early to middle 1990's) to go to, to look for a remix if you looking for a club hit.

    However after time MK became bored of being asked and expected to produce another Nightcrawlers - Pass the feeling on.

    So together with trying to become a fully fledged producer, instead of always being relied upon as a remixer. Marc decided to move away from the House and Garage music scene and try the Rnb and Hip Hop Music scene. He didn't want to become pigeon holed as the House music guy.

    So began the process on writing songs and doing tracks that would bring in money forever. He ended up hooking up with Jay Brown, who was with Jay-Z at the time. Jay managed Marc Kinchen for a couple of years and helped him pass in the right directions. This allowed to reach artists such as Quincy Jones, Snoop Dogg, Jay-Z and a bunch of big artists almost straight away. 

    However, the polictics of Rnb and Hip Hop music meant not that it was not all plain sailing for Mk. There seemed to be more politics within the world of Rnb and Hip Hop music then in House music in regards to making a single - well at that period of time there was.

    Also another huge factor as to why Mk (Marc Kinchen) came back to House and Garage music was that he got bored again. And this time it was with R&B which to him was really getting formulaic and the same.

    Then, out of blue Simon Dunmore who is the owner of Defected Records; is an old friend of Mr. Kinchen. He then informed Marc that people were still playing his records; and it was around the same time that the artist known as Pitbull sampled his remix of “Push The Feeling On” for his song “Hotel Room.” That he knew that he knew that it time that he should return back to House and Garage music again.

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    That resulted in the release of House Masters, 2 discs (2011) that  featured timeless MK dubs and more to a new generation of House and Garage music fans.

    He is even doing djing. Something that he even admits has taken time for him to get used to. As he has always been in the studio making or remixing music, in stead of playing other peoples records.

    Marc's love of making House music allowed him to create a Number 1 pop record here in the Uk. During November 2013, the Ministry of Sound record label agreed to re-released the single originally created and produced by STORM QUEEN (during the year of 2010)

     STORM QUEEN is the stage name - but the real name of the Dj/Producer is Morgan Geist. Who is a Dj/Producer originating from the area of Wayne, within New Jersey, Usa.

    The remixed single even had Morgan Geist lyrics resung by Damon C Scott. It seems as if how Damon C Scott got asked to do the project was unremarkable in its self. He was seen performing on a You Tube video - which lead him being met as a Subway performer on 86 Street IRT LEVINGTON AVENUE LINE EXPRESS STATION - New YORK, USA by a gentleman known as David Levy.

    David Levy introduced him to STORM QUEEN (Morgan Geist)  \and other  various Artists that required vocalists for Hire for their own indiviidual projects.

    It was when he was introduced to STORM QUEEN (Morgan Geist) via David LevySTORM QUEEN (Morgan Geist) asked Damon C Scott to re- sing his lyrics which was placed over the remix provided by MARC KINCHEN

    Marc Kinchen had already agreed to supply new mixes for the re-release of the single within November 2013. And the rest was history so to speak. Here below via a YOU TUBE VIDEO of how Marc Kinchen explaining how he create that  MIX...

    A music video was created for the single which featured an eye patched man dressed as a White Lion in a Suit. After leaving his Hotel room, he dances to get attention from Women. The video was taken filmed at The Cadogen Hotel, Sloane Sqaure.Knightsbridge, London, England - 2013

    Marc Kinchen is a living legend within House Music. There are others. However, if ever a true book was to be written about House and Garage music. A chapter or two will need to be written about this man.

    Well that all folks for me now anyway.

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